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How Old is the Universe?

There is an in house debate among creationists as to the age of the universe, the earth, and mankind. Many disagree and some take this so far as to reject any other idea or opinion. I have found that challenging my own opinions and ideas is the only way I can learn.  Here I will show what I have discovered after more than a year of research and speaking directly with physicists from all kinds of worldviews.  All disagree with me and with one another. The only true consensus I can find is that we think we know a great deal but what we are certain of is only a single drop in the ocean of information of time and space.  


I have tried thus far to stay away from equation heavy or deeply scientific material. In those cases where such is required I have provided links to the material rather than force it upon the reader. Give the subject matter here this approach is not possible. This rabbit hole is written in the language of advanced mathematics and Einstein's concepts.  I will keep it as light as possible but be warned this is heavy material. 


The following video is lengthy but is the single best cosmological video as viewed through the lens of theology I have ever seen bar none.  Chuck Missler shows the extraordinary congruency of physics astronomy and theology in vivid detail. It is well worth your time.

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Lorentz factor for time dilation due to velocity.


1.4 Million KPH

The earth is orbiting the sun at 107826 KPH
The sun is moving through the galaxy at 720986 KPH
The Milky Way Galaxy is moving at 1.4 Million KPH 
Earth velocity is at least 2.4 Million KPH at all times
The time dilation result is 0.0678% from velocity alone.


Mass distorts time as well

Mass Time Dilation Explained

Visual representation here

Mass and time dilation

Mass effects time as well. The more mass or gravitational density- that is the saturation of gravity per cubic meter- the more time is bent and warped.


Earth mass 5.972 × 10^24 kg

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Solar system mass is 2×1030 kg


The Milky Way mass is 3 X 10^42 Kg


Virgo Super Cluster of galaxies including our Milky Way is ~ 3 x 10^48 Kg

What we know so far.

All things move within the universe.  (there is conflicting data as to weather or not the universe itself is spinning).  

Not only is everything moving but every "thing" has mass. 

Both of these facts cause time to dilate. 


The Hubble Constant

(km/sec)/Mpc ?

Galaxies move with a velocity which is measured in KM/second or Km/s. 

MegaParsec is a unit of distance used to measure distances between galaxies. 1 Mpc = 3.08 x 10^19 Km. Its a bit large. 

So km/s/Mpc is a measure of velocity that increases every Mpc

the universe expands at higher velocities the father out you get. so far we have a few different values for this expansion rate acceleration. 

73.8 km/sec/Mpc

70.0 km/sec/Mpc

69.3 km/sec/Mpc

 This is known as the Hubble Constant


why the different values?

The farther away the faster the acceleration

Its not the galaxies moving away so much as the space between them being stretched out faster and faster


Galaxies traveling faster than light?

Not really, but yes, really.
Its all relative.

Now if they are moving away from us faster than light what is the time dilation between us and that galaxy? Physicists look at the Hubble constant and apply it to space but neglect that time must also be stretched exactly the same as space.

need proof?

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The Science of God

The Convergence of Scientific and Biblical Wisdom
Dr. gerald Schroeder

Dr Schroeder is an astrophysicists and Jew, not a Christian. He is M.I.T trained. In The Science of God   Schroeder takes cosmic time dilation to its conclusion.  His equations are peer reviewed. 

The conclusion is rather serendipitous as a 6 literal day creation of Genesis appears to us as 13 BY based n these bias equations. 

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Dr. Schroeder explains

You might say "Looks interesting but I am going to need more proof" 

Keep going

Remember this equation? Your GPS requires this to work properly


This means time dilation is a practical and integral part of every day life. This is not theory but usable and required fact in todays world. 

Need more Proof? 

Rate Distance Time Equations

The Speed of light "C" is like the eleventh commandment, thou shall not break C.
However we have a bit of a conundrum here. 
Inflation theory tells us that the universe got vey big very fast, much faster than C allows. 
so Now we have this equation.
if C is static and D increases then T must decrease inverse to D
Inflation theory increases D radically but can not move C therefore Time must decrease just as radically as D increases.

Inflated inflation


We have all seen this


This is inflation

The universe comes into physical being and expands incredibly fast, much faster than light speed creating a universe almost instantly.

Shooting Star

Why is inflation theory?

Welcome to the horizon problem

The universe i very well mixed together. In order to mix it this well, there had to be a way to get information or energy from one side all the way to the other.  This is impossible according to physics. So we invented inflation theory to solve the problem. There is nothing telling us this ever occurred and no laws of physics it obeys. It is the product of imagination. 

This is why Physicists Eric Lerner has written the open letter to the scientific community  openly challenging the BigBang cosmology. 

If there was no inflation we need a new solution. 

Welcome to time dilation


Mass per m^3 decreases as time passes his means that in the past matter was more concentrated and therefore time passed more slowly. The farther back in time we go the more slowly time passes.

Space-time is not space  plus time but is one thing.

What you do to space you must do to time.

Another corollary of special relativity is that, in effect, one person’s interval of space is another person’s interval of both time and space, and one person’s interval of time is also another person’s interval of both space and time. Thus, space and time are effectively interchangeable, and fundamentally the same thing, an effect which becomes much more noticeable at relativistic speeds approaching the speed of light.


The Solution

Isaiah 44:24 This is what the LORD says— your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the LORD, the Maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens,

A New Cosmological Model of the Universe and New Interpretation for the Cosmic Microwave Background and Type Ia Supernovae Redshifts

Branislav Vlahovic North Carolina Central University, Fayetteville St. Durham, NC 27707

Presented is new cosmological model that assumes radial expansion of galaxies with a speed close to c, and confinement of the galaxies and motion of light on the sphere defined by the position of galaxies. The model predicts correct values for the Hubble constant H0 = 71.17 ± 0.86 km/s/Mpc, size of the observable universe, and speed of the event horizon. It explains why the observed cosmic microwave background is always the same, regardless of the direction in which the measurement is performed and explains uniformity of the CMB without inflation theory. Through relativistic mass correction, this model also provides an explanation for critical density without use of dark mass and dark matter. The model also explains that type Ia supernovae redshifts are not related to the accelerated expansion of the universe and dark energy. It is in agreement with type Ia data and with Hubble Ultra Deep Field (HUDF) optical and near-infrared survey performed in 2004.

How old is the universe?

13+BY and 10000 years and 3 minutes and 43 trillion years. You see when you start talking about time in the context of the universe what we find is that there is no standard measurement of what time is or how it acts across the entire universe. Near black holes time stops. At the speed of light time stops.  When we look at time at a galactic core verses places such as the the Boötes void we find an incredible difference in how time behaves. This is what led Einstein to say "The distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion".

Time is flexible and to try to measure it everywhere at once is a bit like assigning a slinky to be the length determined by another slinky.  

We do have clues and we have rules we still must follow. Everything we see when we place it all in the same pie gives us the situation where the pace of time changes as matter and velocities within the universe change. Every law and equation and inference or hint or subtlety the universe has ever shown us tells us that this is fact. 

The truth is that a year or second or hour don't mean anything on the cosmic scale. These only have meaning locally. There is no actual age of the universe we can define. 

I believe personally that the universe is younger than what we can see because the science tells me so. 

What I do not believe is that the genealogies mentioned in Genesis and elsewhere are time makers to determine the age of anything at all. They place authority and context to the Jewish lineage and patriarchs, among other reasons but never to place time stamps upon events. The following article places purpose to Jewish genealogies.

 Titus 3:9 says "But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless." 

I can not dismiss the fact that the first thing God spoke into existence was light Gen 1:3 and the oldest thing in the universe is light in the form of the CBR. 

Likewise when we find the Hubble Constant and then we find that God "stretched out the heavens" in Job 9:8, 

Isaiah 42:5; Isaiah 44;24: Isaiah 45:12; 

Isaiah 51:13;  Jeremiah 10:12; & Zechariah 12:1 this is far too congruent to simple wave away. 

There is so much more left to say, however if you wish to speak more to this I invite you to post a discussion on our forum linked below. I will keep up and discuss as much as possible there with everyone that 

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