Her I will present evidence for the Flood of Noah. The evidence comes from a variety of sources and there is a variety of dates, ideas, and hypothesis involved as to be expected given the variety of sources. The dating will be resolved when I publish the radiometric dating page. The various ideas and hypothesis is to be expected when we have numerous unrelated scientific disciplines all telling the same narrative but they do not know it or collaborate. This is actually among the strongest form of evidence and is known as unintended congruency. It is exactly this congruency we will be focusing on. When we see that so many separate and unrelated sciences show us information as pieces to a puzzle and these pieces fit together so very well we then can reconstruct the picture. We can then compare that picture we have found to the narrative of Genesis. Lets begin.
The above image is a full size replica of Noah's Ark built to biblical specs and sailing.
In writing this I went in very confident as I had prior knowledge of some of what I will share. As I was researching however I found a vast wealth of evidence from every possible source. In fact I will show you that worldwide floods are no longer thought of as myth at all and is readily accepted in the scientific community. I will also show that mankind building a ship, saving the animals, and having divine knowledge is not only plausible but must have happened that way. I will use scientific methods and natural science to do so. Logic and reason are also required. Instead of a mathematical hypothesis I will use established facts. Instead of guess work I will show hard data. I will not show only one or two methods but many all pointing at exactly the same thing at the same time all around the world. I will show how this event not only recorded itself in the biblical and other anthropologic records but also in the geologic and even glacial record. I also will defeat arguments raised by skeptics. If I can do all that I claim, would you believe that the flood happened the way the bible said it did? If indeed I can use science to show facts that the world wide flood did indeed occur would you believe it then? If I show you an Ark, The flood record, and massive geologic formations that can only be caused by a Noachian flood will you accept the science? Let's see if you will. Keep in mind the dates used by the community are arrived at using radiometric dating which I address in the future. Do not let the dates dissuade you until you see for yourself.
Let's ask a few questions here.
Did the flood happen? If it did there would be world wide evidence we could point to.
Did Noah build something worthwhile?
Is there any extra biblical evidence of this?
The record of the flood is found in Genesis 5:32 - 10:1
This is Genesis 7
1 The LORD then said to Noah, "Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation. 2 Take with you seven  of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 and also seven of every kind of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive throughout the earth. 4 Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I have made." 5 And Noah did all that the LORD commanded him. 6 Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters came on the earth. 7 And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons' wives entered the ark to escape the waters of the flood. 8 Pairs of clean and unclean animals, of birds and of all creatures that move along the ground, 9 male and female, came to Noah and entered the ark, as God had commanded Noah. 10 And after the seven days the floodwaters came on the earth. 11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month--on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. 12 And rain fell on the earth forty days and forty nights. 13 On that very day Noah and his sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth, together with his wife and the wives of his three sons, entered the ark. 14 They had with them every wild animal according to its kind, all livestock according to their kinds, every creature that moves along the ground according to its kind and every bird according to its kind, everything with wings. 15 Pairs of all creatures that have the breath of life in them came to Noah and entered the ark. 16 The animals going in were male and female of every living thing, as God had commanded Noah. Then the LORD shut him in. 17 For forty days the flood kept coming on the earth, and as the waters increased they lifted the ark high above the earth. 18 The waters rose and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water. 19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose and covered the hills to a depth of more than twenty feet. 21 Every living thing that moved on the earth perished--birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. 22 Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; men and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds of the air were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.24 The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.
Among the best videos on the Flood of Noah from grisda.org/
The main problem people have in believing the flood of Genesis is their misunderstanding of what the bible actually says happened. They are against the storybook version of the event rather than the data given in the scripture. They also have not studied and understood what we know happens in massive flood events or looked at the secular data. I will try to take these in order of timeline so that as we progress you will gather an understanding of the misconceptions and be able to see the difference between the objections and the facts. The facts are plain and simple and show the evidence of the flood in many ways. If you choose not to believe the flood occurred you will have some very serious implications and facts you must choose to ignore. The facts are that 10000-12000 years ago (according to radiometric dating) there was an extinction event where dozens of meteors hit earth and changed the earth forever. This is known as the Younger Dryas Impact Event and is recorded worldwide within glacial evidence, Sedimentary evidence, anthropologic evidence, and fossil evidence. It is also recorded in over 400 ancient cultures and religions. We know this occurred but what people tend to have issues with is what they believe the account in the scripture says of the occurrence. The common objection is that there is no way it could have occurred the way the bible says it did. In order to make this statement first you have to know what the bible says occurred, which most who object to the account do not. What they think they know based on tertiary folklore and books made for children. The second thing we have to know is IF the flood did occur what would the evidence look like? In academia in the 1970's and 80's the flood narrative was dismissed out of hand. The idea of a cataclysmic world wide flood was without any merit at all and to speak of such was considered religious buffoonery. However in the 90's-00's there were events discovered that required further explanation. As scientists began investigating these events, independent of one another, many began coming to the conclusion that there was indeed a worldwide flood event in the recent past. As material was reviewed and circulated the picture of what occurred began to come together. It was coming together so in line with the flood account that most thought there was a serious error and that the timing, events, and data involved had to be misinterpreted. After hundreds of peer review papers from every relevant discipline of science began circulating it is becoming an established fact of what occurred. To this end those of you who seek to understand what actually transpired should look into the younger dryas event. Keep this one thing in mind though. Science was very wrong for nearly 300 years about the flood of Noah and only recently have found overwhelming evidence forcing them to acknowledge its factual basis. There are a few things these guys still get wrong however. Do you want to bet on the accuracy of the scientists with hundreds of years of error under their belt who after ridiculing the religious community had to reverse themselves, or do you want to bet on the bible which has been proven correct? As we move forward I want you to keep an open mind and examine the facts for yourself.
Biblical-Type Floods Are Real and They're Absolutely Enormous.
Excerpts from "The Rocks Don't Lie" David Montgomery
"When J. Harlen Bretz uncovered evidence of giant floods in eastern Washington in the 1920s, it took most of the 20th century for other geologists to believe him. Geologists had so thoroughly vilified the concept of great floods that they could not believe it when somebody actually found evidence of one. Bretz was a classic field geologist and a controversial figure throughout his career. In 1925 he presented the story of the region’s giant floods, seeing what others at first could not — and then would not — see. He spent his lifetime piecing together the story of how a raging wall of water hundreds of feet high roared across eastern Washington, carving deep channels before cascading down the Columbia River Gorge as a wall of water high enough to turn Oregon’s Willamette Valley into a vast backwater lake."
Evidence for a Flood Smithsonian Magazine By James Trefil APRIL 1, 2000
"It was this event that Pitman and Ryan believe could be the flood recorded in the Book of Genesis. The salt water poured through the deepening channel, creating a waterfall 200 times the volume of Niagara Falls (anyone who has ever traveled to the base of the falls on the Maid of the Mist will have a sense of the power involved). In a single day enough water came through the channel to cover Manhattan to a depth at least two times the height of the World Trade Center, and the roar of the cascading water would have been audible at least 100 miles away. Anyone living in the fertile farmlands on the northern rim of the sea would have had the harrowing experience of seeing the boundary of the ocean move inland at the rate of a mile a day."
Siberain mega flood from Ice Melt
Massive worldwide flooding from all over the planet.
Various massive and Earth shaping floods have been found all over the planet. From the Missoula Floods of Washington to Montana, The Nepal floods, the floods of the Black Sea, and the 12KYA flood creating the Persian gulf we saw in the "Where was Eden" page.
Here is an interactive map of some of the known floods all over the world from the ice age melt.
These floods occurred everywhere on earth all at the same time.
Australia, Siberia, South America, Antarctica, North America, Eurasia, and many other places all have recorded and acknowledged mega flood events all at the end of the ice age.
"Evidence for megascale flooding at the end of the most recent ice age, is not limited to North America, but has been documented from all over the world. This evidence supports the conclusion that large scale super-flooding events were globally ubiquitous throughout the ice age, but occurred with exceptional power and size at or near its conclusion. Among the places around the planet from which proof is emerging of floods of extraordinary size – Siberia especially, in the Altai Mountains region near the Siberian/Mongolian border, hosts evidence for massive floods equivalent in scale and power to the largest western USA floods. Across northern Europe megaflood evidence is found in abundance. South America, too, shows extensive evidence for massive catastrophic flooding in the recent geological past, as does Australia, New Zealand, the Middle East and Northern Africa. However, for the time being, our focus will be on the great floods of North America. Eventually, however, it will be our goal to document and correlate this imposing mass of evidence for global catastrophe with a view to understanding its origin and causes. Then, we will be in a better position to address the question of social and cultural consequences."
WHAT CAUSED THIS SUDDEN AND MASSIVE ICE AGE MELT OVER THE ENTIRE PLANET?
Younger Dryas Impact Event
Compare the maps from above. The Younger Dryas impact locations match the mega flood map of the world quite remarkably. This level of congruency cannot be coincidence.
Several thousand years ago there was a worldwide flood caused by a meteor breaking up in earth's gravity and hitting the earth in at least 60 separate places we have found thus far. This destroyed the Greenland ice sheet and melted the entire northern ice cap within a matter of days. With the northern ice cap destroyed there was massive flooding throughout the entire northern hemisphere. It also hit the southern hemisphere destroying like and causing global flooding, extinction, and fires.
Here in Greenland
In this paper, we provide evidence for an extraterrestrial (ET) impact event at ≅12.9 ka, which we hypothesize caused abrupt environmental changes that contributed to YD cooling, major ecological reorganization, broad-scale extinctions, and rapid human behavioral shifts at the end of the Clovis Period.
the Africa paper
A prominent spike in platinum is documented in a Wonderkrater sample (5614) with a mean date of 12 744 cal yr BP using a Bayesian model, preceding the onset of the YD cooling event. The YD platinum spike at Wonderkrater is the first to be observed in Africa in the southern hemisphere, supplementing new discoveries from Patagonia in South America, in addition to more than 25 sites with such platinum anomalies in the northern hemisphere.
More are being found every few months.
At present we know of more than 60 impact sites however ongoing research is being conducted and the lead researchers now believe there to be at least 50 more and as many as 100 we have not yet discovered.
Basically they looked at many sites all over North America where these impact sites are. They then looked for the event and evidence in that layer of earth. What they found was crushing. They have a black mat of char layer. Just below this layer they find tools, bone, and other remains of many fauna. These remains are radioactive. This is congruent with an extinction event wiping out most if not all the animals on earth. What happened here was a large meteor on a collision path with earth broke apart due to earths gravity. The many pieces then rained down in a kind of cosmic shotgun blast. These were radioactive because gamma rays saturate space. Any object in space for a long time would be constantly blasted with these high energy rays which produce radioactive isotopes. These meteor fragments caused massive death, destroyed the ecosystem, raised sea levels and burned the surface of the earth.
We are finding more and more evidence of this. Some tell us that there is a lack of craters, however, we are only just getting into this in the last few decades and actively looking for new evidence. Where we do look we do find evidence. What this tells us is that while we understand there was an impact event, we do not know the full extent of the impact event. We know it caused at least the extinction of 40-80% of larger animals and burned entire continents; however we do not know how far the damage reached and lasted. This means it is sure to have been worse than what we think we know now as more impact sites and more black mats, platinum, microdiamond, and even craters are found. We will continue to update our YDI understanding. Every time a new impact site or airburst site is found we know more animals died and more trees burned. How much more land there was when the oceans were 400' lower. It is extremely likely that many impact sites are now underwater and not easily discovered or accessed. Each one we find increases the damage done to the earth and fauna. Based on the available data I estimate we have found roughly 60% of the impact sites however we still have not found the major impact of the largest fragment that hit us. This comes from dozens of research papers I have read and the data we have accumulated to date for the younger dryas event. The data speaks to more needing to be uncovered.
The Earth before the Younger Dryas
Earth after the Younger Dryas
We have a problem
Here we see extreme congruency even down to placement of the impacts and floods from various independent sources. However There is not enough ice, even at glacial maximum to flood the planet with 400' of water. It is certain that the meteors themselves carried some water but that is still nowhere near enough. Add to that 40 days and nights of rain and we are nowhere close to enough water to flood the planet this much. Where did this water come from? As usual I go to the Biblical text to find the answer.
11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month--on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.
From the reading the water came from these "fountains of the deep" and the rain seemed more an effect of the fountains being broken up.
There is more water under the earth than in all the oceans combined, a lot more.
From the U.S. dept. of Energy
If just one percent of the weight of mantle rock located in the transition zone is H2O, that would be equivalent to nearly three times the amount of water in our oceans, the researchers said.
Huge Underground Reservoir Holds Three Times as Much Water as Earth’s Oceans
Amore Technical article
National Science Review, Volume 7, Issue 1, January 2020, Pages 224–232
Washington Post Article
Study: Deep beneath the earth, more water than in all the oceans combined
“Geological processes on the Earth’s surface, such as earthquakes or erupting volcanoes, are an expression of what is going on inside the Earth, out of our sight,” co-author Steve Jacobsen of Northwestern University said in a statement. “I think we are finally seeing evidence for a whole-Earth water cycle, which may help explain the vast amount of liquid water on the surface of our habitable planet. Scientists have been looking for this missing deep water for decades.”
Scientists have long suspected there was a lot of water beneath our feet, but this may be the first direct evidence that a vast reservoir of water is locked inside the mantle’s “transitional zone.” The significance: If just 1 percent of the “transitional zone” is made up of water, researchers say, it would triple the amount of water on the Earth’s surface.
Now we have the following chain of events laid out plainly for us.
First there is a massive ice sheet on Greenland. A meteor breaks apart in earth's gravity well and showers earth with fragments and most likely a large meteor that comprised the majority of the original meteor as with Shoemaker-levy9 which had fragments as large as 2KM in diameter. There is a break in the crust of the earth upon impact causing massive subduction of the earth's crust resulting in the "fountains of the deep" flooding the planet as tectonic activity and shifting releases the pressure restraining the vast amount of water under the planet's crust. Massive extinction and a nearly instantaneous melting of the ice caps. The sea raises 400' from the ice melt alone. The earth is shaken.
In 2004 the massive earthquake that hit Indonesia did massive damage but was nothing when compared to the Younger Dryas Impact. NASA tells us that the 2004 quake was extensive.
"NASA scientists using data from the Indonesian earthquake calculated it affected Earth's rotation, decreased the length of day, slightly changed the planet's shape, and shifted the North Pole by centimeters. The earthquake that created the huge tsunami also changed the Earth's rotation".
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. JANUARY 10, 2005 NEWS NASA Details Earthquake Effects on the Earth
That was a 9.1 earthquake.
Imagine dozens of these all at once combined with massive flooding and a subduction of the earth crust into the mantle releasing the water trapped within. We are looking at a shoemaker levy kind of event. This is what happened based on information we have from the science, the scars left, and the accounts.
The papers and articles I have mentioned thus far are only the tip of the iceberg. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of these same research papers from every major institution. The evidence can no longer be dismissed. The standard hypothesis shows that there was a massive, global, and extinction event, a worldwide flood, and absolute devastation. We know it was big, the question now becomes "how big was it"?
Based on the information from NASA and the researchers, it was a global extinction event.
World Wide Flood Legends
Every ancient culture from every part of the earth has a flood account that parallels the Genesis account and includes many of the same details. We have more than 500 of these accounts from all over the world. Many of these accounts such as the Aborigines and African accounts go back to the time when scientists say it actually occurred. There is also very strong evidence that what they say happened is fact.
Remember there is far too much information for me to exhaust the entirety of it here. Again, I strongly encourage you to research any of this information yourself and find the facts.
Buluwai Story - Great Flood
Narrated by Willie Brim. The Great Flood Bullurru the Creator God of the Buluwai people is so enraged he causes the ocean floor to split apart and release a Great Flood. Recent geological discoveries on the Great Barrier Reef confirm a massive rise in the sea level of this region of Australia approximately 12,000 years ago.
Aboriginal flood Legends
Rising sea levels were a global phenomenon of such proportion and human impact that they appear to have been captured in cultural memory: there are over 500 myths about great floods across the planet. The biblical flood may be one of them, the Australian narratives may be others. These narratives are of particular note as they invariably account for sea level rise in the context of the land that existed before it — they are myths of palaeo-environmental context, less about the formation of the sea as it is seen and might be understood in the present and more about the coast as it changed through antiquity. Together they form a remarkable body of religious lore that must be at least 6,500, if not 10,000, years old. These narratives are thus among the oldest known parables in the world. (p. 201)
As would be expected, the Australian myths of such floods are associated with the flattest country.
“The Gulf of Carpentaria was formed when a raft was dragged across the land and created a channel that filled with sea water.”
“Elcho Island, off the coast of Arnhem Land, was severed from the mainland when a stick was pushed into the ground and the sea rushed in.”
“Joseph Bonaparte Gulf was flooded when endless rains came and the sea rose, threatening to extinguish fire then maintained by mythological beings.”
“The Bassian Plain was drowned after children found a sacred object. The land gave way, the seas moved in and many people died.”
“Port Phillip Bay is described in mythology as a flat, fertile plain, inundated when a large storm blew up and the sea flooded in.”
“Backstairs Passage, between Fleurieu Peninsula and Kangaroo Island, was formed when an ancient mythical being ordered the waters to rise and drown his fleeing wives.”
“Stories of a great flood account for Spencer Gulf in South Australia, and a great fire swept across the ancient coastal plains of the Swan River and cracked the earth, letting the sea flood in and separating Rottnest Island from the mainland.”
“All desert Tjukurrpa [Dreaming] on the Nullarbor Plain relate to the emergence of the sea. The myth of the Wati Kutjara ends abruptly where the Two Men went into the water, via a soak at the Head of the Bight. They are immortalised as two pillars out to sea.”
“In another story, fire is almost extinguished by the rising sea — in an analogous manner to the account from the Joseph Bonaparte Gulf — while the aunty of those who saved it sat cross-legged on the plains pushing up a barrier in an attempt to stop the sea rising any further.”
“In another story, large numbers of mythological birds, embodying the People of the Sun and the Shadow, crossed the desert to build a rampart of spears.”
The Aboriginal people tell of islands that are now underwater. They speak of land mases that are now underwater but have been confirmed by oceanographers. They speak of burning mountains (Meteors) being thrown into the ocean by the gods and this is the start of the flood. They speak of water shooting out of the sea and rain flooding the world as judgement of mans sins against the Creator.
In their account the flood killed everything and only 4 humans survived aboard a boat that the original creator (God) designed. The original creator then remade every lifeform. It is worth noting that this very ancient continuing tribe has many of the same attributes associated with their God as the Christian God. Omniscience, prime being by which creation exists, and several other attributes remarkably similar to The God of Abraham. More can be found in the Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland, 1882. pg. 288. Scientific American Ancient Sea Rise Tale Told Accurately for 10,000 Years John Upton, Climate Central on January 26, 2015
It is also worth noting here that the oldest accounts date to 12500 years ago, which just happen to coincide with the younger dryas event exactly. This is very congruent data. The Aboriginal traditions are a collection of tales of history that are many times told in a metaphoric way with a lot of imagery and symbolism. Taking the basic facts of each of the many flood accounts of the tribes gives us the same picture of judgment and a worldwide flood of mankind that killed all men saving only a few. It is to be noted that the tribes of the aborigines are also among the oldest on earth and may indeed be the oldest continuous culture on the planet.
Australian Geographic DNA confirms Aboriginal culture one of Earth’s oldest By AG Staff with AAP • September 23, 2011
Some of the strongest evidence is that these tell of islands the ancestors would go to or even walk to that are now hundreds of feet below the ocean, yet exactly where the tales say they will be, not one or two but dozens. How do these ancient people know that these "islands" are there under the ocean? They also speak of water shooting out of the ocean into the sky and causing torrential rains. These congruences can not be overlooked or explained away. There is no way that the Aborigines could know that the biblical account said this or make such an ancient tale that so closely matches the genesis account.
Locations of a few of the hundreds of flood narratives
Flood Narratives from around the World
Just a few of the hundreds of narratives
The Samoans have the same flood account and include the rainbow and prime God above all others.
Tahiti has the same flood account with the difference of stones falling from the sky and a massive wind causing destruction all over the world, no man or animal survived this save the man and woman in the ark with the animals. It speaks of the putrid waters in the rivers and rocks in the aftermath of the flood.
In the Māori traditions we have two brothers fighting it out, they convince some of the gods to side with one or the other and the destruction of the flood ensues with only a few surviving.
The Ifugao tell of a family being saved from a flood that killed everything then came to rest on a mountain.
The Rukwa have nearly the exact same account of the flood as found in genesis.
Frazer, Sir James G. Folk-Lore in the Old Testament, vol. 1, Macmillan & Co., London, 1919.
The very interesting thing is the Maasai do have the exact same account as the biblical narrative. Both of these are ancient African people.
Gaster, Theodor H. Myth, Legend, and Custom in the Old Testament, Harper & Row, New York, 1969
The Hindu religion also tells of this flood. In the Satapatha Brahmana we find God telling man of the impending flood and to build a ship to carry food and animals. This is a very old text and among the oldest religions on the planet. There are several variations to this based on geography within the subcontinent.
The Epic of Gilgamesh is well known and the tale is among the many accounts of the flood. This comes from ancient Samaria and is on the tablet that is among the oldest examples of writing humans have found yet. Here it is often said that the Babylonian account is older than the bible and therefore the bible was copied from the Babylonian account. This doesn't make any sense though because we know the Babylonian account came from Summer and predates human writing. It was carried in oral tradition and is far older than the Epic of Gilgamesh.
The Sumerians have a very old account of the flood where a God warns mankind of a coming flood, gives instruction on how to build a huge boat to save mankind and the animals. This is among the very oldest accounts.
The Native American Choctaw tribe has a legend where great darkness covered the land and fear grips all mankind. Then mountains of water cover the earth and a few families are saved by building a raft.
The Anishnaabe speak of God destroying the world and one man builds a raft. It speaks directly of all the animals save those that can swim being destroyed in horror. It speaks also of the mountains being covered.
The Cree tell of the flood that killed all life on earth save one woman by whom the earth was repopulated. They people climbed to the highest mountain but the waters covered even this peak.
The Mi'kmaq of Canada tells of rain that covered all the earth. Mankind built canoes to escape but only a man and woman who were the most holy of all people survived.
The Innuit of Alaska tell of a global flood and reference seashells in the mountains as evidence.
The Yuma of Southern California tell of a massive flood that killed nearly everything until the Gods relented and sent a huge fire to dry the waters
Native American Waynaboozhoo and the Great Flood is an Ojibwe Native American legend that directly mirrors the Genesis account.
Thailand has an account of God destroying all the world with a great flood and only a few humans survive in a massive gourd then are saved by God.
North American native tribal flood accounts
accountsInnuit; Eskimo; Norton; Sound Eskimo; Central Eskimo; Tchiglit Eskimo; Herschel Island Eskimo; Netsilik Eskimo; Greenlander: Tlingit Hareskin Tinneh Loucheux Dogrib and Slave Kaska Thompson Indians Sarcee Tsetsaut: Haida Tsimshian Kwakiutl Kootenay Squamish Bella Coola Lillooet Makah Klallam Skokomish Skagit Quillayute Nisqually Twana Kathlamet: Spokana Wintu Tuleyome Miwok Ohlone Pomo Yuma Blackfoot Cree Chippewa Ottawa: Cheyenne Micmac Lenape Algonquin Lakota: Caddo Pawnee Navajo Apach Sia: Hopi:
Central American Tribal flood accounts:
Tarascan Michoacan Yaqui Tarahumara Huicho Cora Tepecano Tepehua Toltec Nahua Tlaxcalan Tlapanac Mixtec Zapotec Trique Totonac Chol Tzeltal Quiché
Maya Popoluca Carib
Others are from Nicaragua, Panama, and Northern Guatemala.
South American Flood Tribal Accounts
Acawai; Arekuna; Makiritare; Macusi; Muysca; Yaruro; Yanomamö; Tamanaque; Arawak; Pamary, Abedery, and Kataushy; Ipurina; Jivaro; Shuar; Murato; Cañari; Guanca and Chiquito; Ancasmarca; Canelos Quechua; Quechua; Inca; Colla; Chiriguano; Chorote; Caraya; Coroado; Araucania; Toba; Selk'nam; Yamana.
Oceania & Australia Tribal Flood Accounts
Arnhem Land; Maung; Gunwinggu; Gumaidj; Manger; Fitzroy River area;
Australian, Mount Elliot; Western Australia, Andingari; Wiranggu; Narrinyeri; Victoria, Lake Tyres; Kurnai;
Kabadi; Valman; Mamberao; Samo-Kubo; Papua New Guinea;
New Hebrides Lifou; Fijian;
Samoa, Nanumanga; Mangaia; Rakaanga; Raiatea; Tahiti; Hawaii;
Asian Flood Accounts
Vogul; Samoyed; Yenisey-Ostyak; Kamchadale;
Altaic; Tuvinian; Mongolia, Buryat; Sagaiye;
Russian; Hindu, Bhil; Kamar; Assam; Tamil;
Lepcha; Tibet; Singpho; Lushai; Lisu; Lolo; Jino; Karen; Chingpaw;
China; Korea; Munda; Santal; Ho; Bahnar; Kammu; Andaman Islands; Zhuang; Sui; Shan;
Tsuwo; Bunun; Ami; Benua-Jakun; Kelantan; Ifugao; Kiangan Ifugao; Atá; Mandaya; Tinguian;
Batak;, Nias; Engano; Dusun; Dyak; Ot-Danom; Toradja; Alfoor; Rotti; Nage.
European Flood Accounts
Greek Arcadian; Samothrace; Roman ;Scandinavian, German
Celtic; Welsh;; Lithuanian; Transylvanian Gypsy; Turkey
Are all of these narratives from the same event?
We must conclude with Francis Schaeffer’s study of flood myths when he said that among the common myths in the world’s history, no other one is so widespread as the story of the flood. From China to the American Indians and even the pre-Colombian Indians, one finds in strange forms the myth of the great flood. Most of these myths have 526 weird elements—foolish elements, for example the descriptions of the boat that was used. In the Bible these strange and foolish elements are not there. We would say, then, that the Bible gives us the history of the flood; the myths all over the world are contorted, but show that men everywhere have a memory of it. Here in the Bible is the one flood story whose details, including the construction of the vessel, are reasonable [48, pp. 129-130].
Flood anthropology and scientific investigations.
Byron C. Nelson, The Deluge Story in Stone (Augsburg, Minneapolis, 1931
Dawson, John William (1895), The Historical Deluge in Relation to Scientific Discovery
Rehwinkel, Alfred M. (1951), The Flood
Wundt, William (1916), Elements of Folk Psychology, trans. Edward L. Schaub
What we know so far
There are the same accounts being told all over the earth. From North America to Asia, from Australia to Russia. From Korea to South and Central America, hundreds of ancient cultures tell the same thing. The accounts are far too congruent to dismiss. In fact there are more than 500 flood accounts all of them very old and nearly all having the same basic facts. God becomes angered at man's disobedience, tells a man to build a boat, provides instruction, the animals and food are saved on the boat with the man. Now we could go through these one by one and see just how many there really are but there are books written that do that and we have only one chapter. Instead consider these basic facts and that there is nowhere mankind has risen that does not have a flood account. How do we explain this? How is it that nearly every ancient culture no matter the location of that culture has the same event recorded in their history? The common answer is that these are all big local flood accounts and do not represent a global event. So if that is the case I have a few questions. Why all the similarities in these accounts? God warns mankind of a massive flood. Animals being boarded and rescued. Food being stored away. Rainbows, Covered the entire earth. Only the righteous family was saved. Nearly all of these accounts have many of these in common, in fact you could easily reconstruct the biblical account nearly perfectly just from a single tribe in Africa, adding one from North American natives, and then adding in an Aboriginal account. How is it that you only need 3 accounts to reconstruct the account of Noah, and these accounts can be found all over the planet? Local flood accounts do nothing to explain this. Furthermore we have these accounts from Mountain tribes and peoples as well. Floods do not happen like this in those areas. Sure they have floods but not ones that cover the mountains and kill all mankind. This idea of many local floods also flies in the face of the evidence from the Younger Dryas. This was a global event and certainly not local unless you know of a way to raise sea levels 400' in only one place. The idea of a series of local floods not only lacks explanatory power but also does not explain the geological formations stretching across entire continents
Here is one of the biggest controversies in the flood narrative. The fact is that those who argue against the feasibility of the Ark and what the account tells us have no idea what has happened in history. They say a few things that simply are not true. "The Ark was not seaworthy", "The ark could not contain all those animals", ``The ark was too large for one man to build". I have researched them all. The facts say something very different. Let me show you.
There are whale & dolphins hybrids or "Whalphins". These are not the same species or even the same genus but are only interrelated at the famile taxonomic group
Hybrids show what animals are required for an ark.
God told Noah only to take two of each "kind" of animal. This would be 2 cats, two dogs, two elephants, two lizards, two snakes, two goats. He did not need to take two anoles, two iguanas, two yak, two deer, two gazelle, two llama, & two buffalo. Two of each kind would be those that are genus or famile in the modern taxonomy. In fact the best evidence of this is that many animals that should not be able to mate often do and produce offspring. There are Ligers, and Tions, the results of large cats interbreeding. There are also interbreeds of many different lizards and snakes within their genus and famile. Many frogs, fish, and sharks can interbreed within their genus and famile as well. There are whale & dolphins hybrids or "Whalphins", Goldfinch and canaries have produced hybrids, Hybrid Orangutans have bread from Borneo and Sumatran Apes. Bears interbreed quite a bit, Grizzlies and Polar bears and Brown bears all have interbreed and produced hybrids. A Yakalo is a Yak and Bison offspring, a Zulow is a baby of a cow and bison, and we have Dza which are Bison and cow hybrids. Many birds interbreed and this is actually very common among bird collectors. Camel and llama can mate, as can a narwhal and beluga. Look up what a sturddlefish is. Scientists made one from a sturgeon and paddlefish. What we see happening all around us in all kinds of animals shows that Noah's account is accurate. It also shows that scientists were wrong about these genetic capabilities as many of these were thought impossible combinations. That these animals can reproduce with one another shows directly that two of each genus is all that is required for continuation of the animal and repopulation of the earth. This also speaks directly against common ancestry. Not only has God shown us that this is possible, He has shown us by giving us many examples of exactly this hybridization happening. In other words, we know that only two were required because they are compatible in nature. The scientific definition of species says they can not mate and reproduce. This is obviously false as the members of the family Delphinidae are interbreeding. Narwhal and Beluga are members of the Monodontidae family. This means we know for a fact that many animals can breed well outside their own species. Noah did not need to take more than several tens of thousands animals on the ark. He did not need fish of course or any oceanic life. He did not need insects, though no doubt many did come aboard with the livestock and food. The instructions are clear. Much is made about the word "kind" used in the scripture and how vague the word is. I do not see a vagueness at all but instead a very common sense approach that makes everything easy.
The Ark was not seaworthy?
Johan Huibers would disagree. He built the Ark, twice. The first one was 1/2 half the size scale and has docked in England after sailing the ocean from the Netherlands. This was the first one he built. He wanted to go full scale but the laws prohibited him from doing so at the time. After a while, he decided to do it anyway. He found a way through the red tape and sold the 1/2 scale model (The one that has sailed to England) then built a full scale ship. What's more, both were built in the waters of the Delta of the Netherlands. It has been said that even though it may sail, the ark could not survive the storm of Noah. Well it did. In January of 2018 Cyclone Eleanor hit the Netherlands where the ship was docked. It took damage but survived. The thing about this is that docked ships in 100KPH+ winds do not do well. Many of the other vessels docked with the Ark did not make it. However in 2019 this 1/2 scale model Ark sailed to England.
Ark Encounter shows resolutions to many objections of skeptics
The Ark was too big to be built by one family?
One person has built an Island out of plastic bottles and lives on the manmade island.
Another person built Coral Castle by himself.
Cathedrals, castles, parks, landscape structures, and many other things much larger than the Ark have been built by one person even sourcing the material themselves.
One man Island
One Man Cathedral
The USS Wyoming was a 1909 Schooner with 6 masts, 450' long and 50' wide that was made of wood. It also had iron reinforcement along each side. It had steam engines to hoist the sails and an anchor windlass. Her draft was 30'5". She had other pumps to keep the water out of the lower decks as well. She lasted 5 years and was sunk in high seas in 1924. Now the comparison here might seem a bit odd as we have an iron reinforced ship that did not do so well in tempest however let's look at this. The six masts raise the center of gravity and have a massive weight, this combined with the sails created a much less stable ship than the Ark which was one and a half times wider and thus had a greater stability and buoyancy. The Wyoming was much more top-heavy and thus would pitch and list to a much greater degree. Furthermore the addition of 8 steam engines on board (6 for the sails, one for the anchor, and another for the pumps) did not help the weight problem at all. This would not only cause a lower draft and less stability but would create much more stress on the ship itself given the added bracings and weight differential from bow to stern. In looking at this what we have here is one more top heavy, over weighted, and narrow ship, versus a much more buoyant, stable, and a more uniformly weighted ship. Do not tell me Noah's Ark was not seaworthy, we know it was. We have Johan's Ark built on the water and has survived tempest. We have a replica that has sailed to England. We have the USS Wyoming which was less stable and durable yet lasted 5 times longer than the Ark.
Josephus records the remains of Noahs Ark
However, the Armenians call this place (Apobaterion) The Place of Descent; for the ark being saved in that place, its remains are shown there by the inhabitants to this day.
The Antiquities of the Jews 1.3.5
Now all the writers of barbarian histories make mention of this flood and of this ark; among whom is Berosus the Chaldean; for when he is describing the circumstances of the flood, he goes on thus: – “It is said there is still some part of this ship in Armenia, at the mountain of the Cordyaeans; and that some people carry off pieces of the bitumen, which they take away and use chiefly as amulets for the averting of mischiefs.” Hieronymus the Egyptian, also, who wrote the Phoenician Antiquities, and Mnaseas, and a great many more, make mention of the same. Nay, Nicolaus of Damascas, in his ninety-sixth book, hath a particular relation about them, where he speaks thus: – “There is a great mountain in Armenia, over Minyas, called Baris, upon which it is reported that many who fled at the time of the Deluge were saved; and that one who was carried in an ark came on shore upon the top of it; and that the remains of the timber were a great while preserved. This might be the man about whom Moses, the legislator of the Jews wrote.”
The Antiquities of the Jews 1.3.6
Skeptic arguments resolved
I have tried to find the very best arguments against this data I could not wishing to "strawman" the objections to the narrative. Here I address these objections directly.
Eight people could not care for all those animals.
The Ark Encounter museum solves this easily. Not only was the Ark designed for this explicit purpose but there are many techniques incorporated into the ship that solves many other these issues naturally. Fresh water is no concern given the rain involved. Fresh air is not a problem either. Upper and Lower windows produce a draft effect that continually cycles air throughout an enclosure based on heat convection. Waste can be handled easily enough with a trough system below each enclosure washing the waste out to sea. In fact, with only 5 people and a few carts you could easily provide care for all these animals without much difficulty at all given you had the correct set up.
Where was the food for the carnivores?
Do you know the difference between a clean and unclean animal in the scriptures'? The difference is that a clean animal may be eaten or used for sacrifice while an unclean animal may not. Why do you think God told Noah that 7 pairs of clean animals were to be taken? These were to be used as food for Noah and the animals. There is no other purpose for these animals unless you think Noah made that many sacrifices to God. In fact not only did we have enough clean animals, these animals which are mostly birds, can lay eggs and reproduce quickly enough to provide a sustainable food source.
The fish would have died from not enough or too much salt water.
The argument here is that the salt content of the ocean would have been severely disrupted causing mass death in the oceans. This is coming from those who do not live at the coast and have a river feeding into the ocean to look at every day. Jacksonville Florida has the Saint Johns River. This is a mixture of sea and fresh water. We have all kinds of saltwater and freshwater creatures in the river. This argument comes from ignorance of how life can behave in different environments. We have creatures such as manatees, pufferfish, sharks, and jelly fish in the St. Johns. We also have fresh water fish near the mouth of the river and delta area. There are actually warning signs made to protect the sea life that wander into the freshwater. The mixing of fresh and salt water would seem to have little to no effect on ocean or freshwater life. This also edifies what we can test. We know that many areas of the ocean get a great deal more rain than others. The coast of Vietnam for instance gets much more rain than the coast of Libya and yet sea life seems unchallenged despite the differences in rainfall in these areas.
How did Noah get all those animals on the Ark?
Noah did not. God gathered the animals.
Genesis 7:15 says "Pairs of all creatures that have the breath of life in them came to Noah and entered the ark." This is another example of an argument that does not speak against what the scripture says but what a person thinks is said.
God also closed the door to the Ark.
The Animals could not have repopulated the world from only a pair.
The Cambrian explosion decidedly hands this argument a swift rebuke. The Cambrian explosion is the very sudden and massive appearance of life all over the planet at once without any justifiable cause. One on hand we are told an expansion of life can not occur due to a single pair of animals, then with the Cambrian explosion we are told there is a much larger explosion of life without any explanation that can account for it at all. There is even further proof. We can breed new dogs very quickly. We can breed new birds even faster. We are told we could not have such a large expansion of life from two animals even after we prove that not only is it possible yet we do this continually as breeders, biologists, and geneticists.
How did animal locations become so diverse such as Koala and Platypus in Australia, Polar bears in the Arctic, and Penguins in the Antarctic?
The standard objection here is that we do not find Australian mammals in other places therefore How did they walk to Australia from the Middle East?
This neglects the facts. The fact is that in nearly any specific geographic region we find specific lifeforms. They use Australia because it is widely known to have exotic organisms that are not found in other places but so are penguins, whale sharks, Rhinoceros. Cheetah, and other life forms. Many lifeforms are confined to a specific geographic region. This has nothing to do with the flood of genesis and is used heavily in evolution theory.
Mauritius Island is about 400 miles from Madagascar. However there is a significant population of marsupials and wildlife there just as in Australia. In fact everywhere we look we find specific animals in various places. This is Gods expressed intent. genesis 8:17 says "Bring out every kind of living creature that is with you—the birds, the animals, and all the creatures that move along the ground so they can multiply on the earth and be fruitful and increase in number on it."
The Missoula Floods
We have all seen these and know what they are and how they are formed.
This large structure was formed when the Ice Age ended. Meltwater from the ice sheets of the north flooded the entire area from Alaska through Montana and Washington through Oregon into northern California.
Missoula Flood ripples
These ripples are known to have been caused by the younger dryas meltwater from the Laurentide Ice sheet.
Missoula flood water ripples
This is an areal picture of the scablands of the Missoula flood Washington state.
How much water was required to cause this?
Missoula Flood Canyon
This is not the Grand Canyon as you might think. This is a canyon in the Missoula flood area caused by the enormous flood.
The area of the Missoula Flood
How much water is needed to flood this area? This is the flood of Noah as you will see.
This is said to be caused over many millions of years through slow and combined geologic processes. The water ripples tell us that this was formed rapidly by a massive water flood.
Tarim Basin Formation
The largest basin on earth. This is formed by water pooling in a massive puddle. How much water is needed to make this?
Tarim Basin Water ripples
These water ripples extend for well over 200Km at the East end of the basin.
Measuring the Tarim water ripples
It is 9976 M from crest to crest meaning the water was several Kilometers in depth.
Dissenters objection to this evidence
These are sand dunes!!
The sand dunes are located within the actual basin itself and are smaller by orders of magnitude. They are shaped differently and have no waveform definition. They also change where as these ripples are permenent structures.
On google earth ask for "Simpson Desert Regional Reserve". This will take you directly to the water ripples.
Massive water formation in the middle of the Austrailian Desert
We find this water formation spanning more than 500 KM
The Formation itelf
Another massive puddle just as with the Tarim Basin yet here we still see the water in puddle form.
Notice the parallel layers formed by water moving in a single direction.
Compare and Contrast
Examine this photo and the google earth you look at yourself. Then compare to the following photo of a water puddle.
Dissenter objection to this evidence
This is a real objection stated by a geologists and flood denier.
"These are not water ripples". he said.
I rest my case.
A simple rain caused this puddle. Yet we see the same mechanisms and features in place just on a much smaller scale. Horizontal wave remnants, crest and valleys, even small ripple effects overlapping one another. These were caused by the same mechanisms but on vastly different scales.
John Mackay - Noah's Flood
A Basin is formed by water. A basin can and is usually formed by water depositing and eroding material back and forth. Geologist are telling us this was formed by water. "
Rocks of an eastern miogeosynclinal and a western eugeosynclinal assemblage have been thrust into juxtaposition in the western portion of the Copenhagen Canyon area. In the eastern portion of the area, only rocks of the eastern assemblage are present. The eastern assemblage is composed predominantly of clastic limestones ranging in age from Lower Ordovician to Helderbergian. The western assemblage is represented by the Ordovician Vinini formation. Lower Pennsylvanian fusulinid-bearing rocks overlie the Vinini formation in the highest thrust plate and are considered part of the overlap assemblage. Four imbricate thrusts overlie the Helderbergian limestones, which have been severely deformed locally. Deformation is mild in the lower thrusts, but extreme in the uppermost thrust."
Geology of the Copenhagen Canyon area, Monitor Range, Eureka County, Nevada
Limestone is created when a mass grave of organisms is compressed into mud.
Limestone is any rock that is made mostly from calcium carbonate, but there are several types. It forms with carbonate rocks were deposited in seawater and continue to form as coral reefs in shallow seas. Marine limestone comes together when seawater with high concentrations of chemicals as they dissolve. The surface layer of the material is usually coral, clams, and other sea creatures that use the same chemicals in their shells. The composite of those things merges together and creates the limestone over a period of time.
From The Limestone Learning Center
Geologists are telling us that this formation was created by sequential deposits and erosion of seawater.
That is exactly right.
We only disagree about the timing.
IN a recent discussion with an atheist concerning the flood of Noah and this specific page I was asked why there are no high altitude saltwater lakes.
Well, Here you are.
Mono Lake is a large saltwater lake, located near the California/Nevada border.
The image below show Tufa formations which are limestone rocks formed in saltwater.
The Middle East
The Middle East was clearly formed by water
Here I have highlighted the swirl patterns as the water twisted and turned forming ew mountains and basins.
Irans shoreline from Space
Does anyone doubt this was caused by water?
This formation is directly East of Bangledesh
You could not ask for a more perfect water ripple formation.
Just under 600Km North to South.
View from the North
You can almost see the water running over this formation.
A beautiful display of massive water ripples
The parallel structure
This formation is so perfect I had to research to make sure it was not manmade. It is completely natural.